Forgive the typos - typing in a rush . It's a little scattered, but I'd welcome our thoughts on these random snippets.
Moderated by Jenny Lauck of Big Slice of LIfe.
Speakers include Wendy McClure of Poundy.com. She's the author of the Weight Watcher recipe cards that we all love, found here. Yvonne of Joy Unexpected, who has struggled with weight loss and blogs about her difficulties.
Laurie Toby Edison who has written books on Body Image and the beauty of overweight women. How did she get into the photography of heavy women, when she herself is light? She started with her best friend, who was devastated by comments made by a boy friend. She feels that fat and feminism tie together. It all relates to the way people with disabilities are treated, the way the elderly are treated. Everyone has a friend/mother/sister who is heavy and they are still people - shouldn't be ridiculed.
Wendy wrote to newspapers concerning the Dove commercials. Why should the weight of a woman appeal to another woman to sell soap? If a woman isn't eye candy, is she disgusting? She heard this feeling from many different people, not just on the radio from deejays and such. She sees awful, ugly, disgusting things inflicted on women and feels that the gloves come off in terms of dealing with fat women.
Yvonne has posted many pictures of herself in different stages of weight loss. Why? She does it to put herself out there and let it go and not obsess over it. She thought that she was the only woman who was battling with "the beast." She posts pictures and tells the truth in order to keep other people feeling as if they are not alone.
Laurie wanted to put women on the beauty continuum. There is nothing more invisible than a nude fat woman.
Jenny asks if anyone blogs about body image. Momomatic blogs about weight loss every friday. She tries to deal with shame, and letting go of that sense of shame. She feels that she's found a community of support. A Celebration of curves - she calls it fake it until you make it. She made a rule that she couldn't leave the house until she said three nice things about her body to herself in the mirror - that is an awesome rule. She feels that her life has gotten much better since doing this, because she feels that things are more positive now. Wendy asks about the troll that she received on her blog - what kind of problems have people recevied on their blogs when they are honest about their weight loss efforts? What makes people disappear on weight loss blogs - they have good intentions and then just quietly go away. Does our country have an eating disorder? There is a backlash of dieting.
Laurie want to make it clear that body image and diet are not just for women, but men have just the same troubles that women have. She wants to point out that you shouldn't feel like a failure if you eat well and exercise and don't lose weight.
Question for Yvonne - did she ever feel a disconnect with her readers when she lost weight? She sasy no, she felt like her readers still cheered her on and hung around for her. Yvonne received strong reactions when she spoke badly about herself. She feels that you can't get rid of the shame that you feel as an overweight person if you continue to look down on yourself and use negative words like fat ass and wide load. Wendy doesn't like when other people assume things about her with regards to her self esteem.
Rachel, Yvonne's friend, feels that she was judgemental of fat people but feels that knowing Yvonne and speaking with her has helped her to lose that feeling. Jenny asks, do we have a right to talk negatively about ourselves? What can you say about yourself? Yvonne asks, can you be honest about your weight and say things like in the heat, your thighs stick together without making other people feel badly?
Kate Harding from Kateharding.net says that fat is just a descriptive term, and not a negative term. Take the power away from the word fat - people who say that they feel fat don't mean that they are fat, but that they feel gross. Does fat equal smelly, disgusting?
Is there a difference between wanting to do something about yourself and needing to do it?
Why are people so obsessed with what other people look like? from Iateapie.net (a great site).
Representative of Quaker and Tropicana - wants to know how bloggers feel about NGO's and government agencies. Laurie feels like weight loss is so prevelant and money oriented. She thinks if we took all the energy and all the money spent on diet, we could change the world. Diets will fail, she says that all HMO's agree. Body Image is about so many other things rather than just your weight. We all live with it on a daily basis.
Wendy says that we are all guilty of looking at people and judging them. When you put a picture of yourself online, everyone feels immediately free to comment and rip you apart. There is no line anymore between not commenting and saying things.
Sassafrass says that it is important for women to claim their space and own it. It is very empowering to women. She is a writer for a fitness blog. She approaches it as a feel good about yourself type thing. Do you ever have feelings of being fraudulent to your readers?
Yvonne rerets blogging so much about her weight loss. Wendy worries that she lies by omission. If she hasn't written about doing exercsie, it means she hasn't done it. It's weird having to live up to what she says.
Cookie cutter beauty? Is blogging more than a personal thing - can you help others break out of the cookie cutter image? Women go under the knife for breast implants and enlargements and it is unsafe.
Mommylu.blogspot.com says Group cognition - you need help from other people, help from a group. This is a community that can work together. What if we all actually did work together on this issue?
How much energy is wasted on self hatred and how can we spread that energy more positively? It's not about the numbers but it's about doing the right thing. Is there a line between who we are and our body image? Are we identified by only our physical appearance? Is there a woman out there who is happy 100% with her body? If you would never say it to another person, why do you say it to yourself? The community is a great support and we need to use it.
What kind of responsiblity do we have to our commenters, if they need more help than we can provide? Laurie and Wendy have both referred people to help that they need. Laurie wants to stress that ALL of us are baraged by images and issues - it is not just about you. Society always tells us that there is something wrong with us. Have we pulled the curtain back on the reality of weight loss? If not, how can we do that?
Should we say that "this food is a bad food"? Should we say even that things are good or bad? Meals, exercise, etc. Does making those choices make you a good or bad person? How do you know that people are even telling the truth?
Jenny asks, Do we all self depricate in order to beat other people from doing so?
Can blogs change the culture?