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That is the strangest procedure I have ever heard. In MD the whole process is completed at the DMV.I have lived in other states, but was not a new driver there but never heard of this before. Interesting.


Okay, so the whole thing sounds crazy insane, but I have to say I am impressed with the kindness of the guard. He SO didn't have to do that.


Wow, that is a lot of work! In CA and OR you just take tests at the DMV.

Headless Mom

That's crazy. Do they have the same rules for 17 or 18 year olds? I'd totally wait until then. There are driving rules for kids under 17 but nothing nearly like those hoops.


HMmmm...we are at this stage. They HAVE to have a behind the wheel class?


Lot less complicated down here. It's been awhile but TX does require a class which includes behind the wheel and classroom instruction. It used to be available in public schools but that stopped back when I was getting my license. You can take the driving test at the DMV when you are 16 and then you get your license in the mail. TX does have a special driver's license for 21 and under though. It looks different from the adult licenses.


GAHHHHH - What a mess!! Kind thoughts to the guard for the .50 and nasty thoughts to the guard for the reprimand. Obviously he does not have children in his house. Congrats Allegra!


Ohhhh my goodness that was hilarious! Not for you at the time but made for a great story...
I'm just so glad you MADE it in, in the nick of time- even if you had to sit front & center!
Too funny...and typical of the luck we have!
Congrats to Allegra :)


I was a 16 year old in VA (over 15 years ago) and I went through this same procedure (ok, not the late part and we didn't have ipods back then) but I honestly think it's a good thing for kids. I got the lecture about how driving was a privilege and not a right. We lived in a small town and the same judge who presided over this also was the traffic judge and we were warned about the consequences if we had to stand before her again. Oh, and for the record - i still have a blemish free driving record. And for the question about 17 and 18 year olds -- My brother got his at 18 (and probably still doesn't need it) and no he did not have this same procedure.


That's an odd procedure to go through, but it sounds kind of like a good idea at the same time. Here the kids are able to test at the DMV for their Learner's Permit.


I'm glad I got my license in VA back in the old days before this procedure, but also glad my 3 kids will have to go through it in the next few years to get theirs. How's that for a double standard from Mom.

Anyhow, thanks for filling me in... my son will be 15 in 6 weeks. Oh the fun we will have in the next 2 years.


In 1986 it was so much simpler! I went to the DMV next to Military Circle, took the written test, took drs ed in summer school and then took the official test. 4 right turns and maybe a left if I am remembering correctly. No parallel parking either. Times have changed.


Wow, that's complicated. In WA, they have to take a six week class, including six hours behind the wheel. The parents have to certify that they have at least 40 hours of practice time, ten at night. Then they go to DMV, take the written test, make an appointment for the driving test, and get their picture taken. The license arrives in the mail.

Under 18 does have special rules, though -- for the first six months, no non-family members in the car, and no driving in the middle of the night. Second six months, only three people in the car, and still no driving in the middle of the night. A ticket resets the clock. I think that is a most excellent law, and we have enforced it, though I think we're in the minority.

Chris Carter

Nice, gotta love those " Catch-22" type situations.


The last time I made that lovely trip with a newly-licensed driver, I forgot that I had my nail scissors.

The judge never showed up, so we never got The Talk. They just let everyone go.

Laura H

Here in Az, I didn't even have to take a driving class to get my license (my school didn't offer a driving class cause, ya know, REALLY small). I took a written test for my paper permit at 15 and 7 mos., then at 16 took a driving test and got my license. All done at DMV. Didn't realize how easy I had it! LOL Of course, in my mind, I would DIE if I didn't pass and get my license.


Now that is some ritual. Up here at 15 1/2 kids can begin driving with a parent no permit, no training, no written test, no nuthin. At 16 they can take drivers ed. If they don't take drivers ed that can't test until they are 18. Once the complete drivers ed and have 40 hours of driving time logged they can test away......
My newest 15 1/2 year old has yet to get behind a wheel. Having just taught her 17 yo sister who's had 3 accidents and 1 speeding ticket I don't have it in me. Plus she unemployed and can't pay for her own insurance so in my head she can't drive until she can pay for her insurance. So win win for me albeit temporary


It's really too bad they can't give you a list of times that you can jot in 123 in order of preference and fill in the time slots that way? I'd never be able ot get there at 4pm.
Happy Driving Allergra.

here it's still write test after 16yrsold, get lessons or drive, learn, get a licence but with limitations. In the end you hve to be 18 to get a FULL drive by yourself licence.

Mary @ A Simple Twist of Faith

Wow, talk about a nice guard! I think a guardian angel must have been involved there.


They must do things different now, my hubby took Brandon for his and the judge just talked for an hour, Brandon got his license on the way in and that was it. I wonder if its the same judge each time.. his was at 4 as well.

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